23.8.06

Iran's Nuclear Weapons

I made the mistake of watching CNN the other day and had the pleasure of getting to see Larry King lie repeatedly into the camera. It is possible, of course, that he believed the lies he was telling, but that does not make them true.

He kept referring, as most American journalists do, to "Iran's Nuclear Weapons" or "Iran's Nuclear Weapons Program."

What needs to be noted is that, based on the evidence provided, Iran does not have a Nuclear weapons program. The IAEA's reports on the subject outline the fact that "there is no evidence of diversion of nuclear material to a weapons program" however "outstanding questions" remain. Suspension of Uranium Enrichment is intended to "build confidence in the international community," and clearing up the outstanding questions (rather than suspension of enrichment) is the real issue, contrary to the assertions of the western media.

We should also note that a few months ago Iran offered the IAEA full access to all of Iran's nuclear sites and suspected nuclear sites. This offer was flatly rejected by America's Condeleeza Rice, speaking on behalf of a Security Council Veto holding state. However, this offer was basically what is being demanded of Iran right now by the Security Council (aside from the manufactured issue of Suspension) in their recent resolution on Iran.

The resolution by the Security council refers to a document released by the IAEA board of Governers from February 8, 2006, numbered Gov/2006/14. That IAEA resolution states "that Article IV of the Treaty on the Non Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
stipulates that nothing in the Treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the inalienable rights of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with Articles I and II of the Treaty," and each IAEA report (covered extensively in this blog) since then has reiterated the fact that "the Agency has not seen indications of diversion of nuclear material to nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices."

It will be difficult for the Security Council to agree on any kind of sanctions what with the fact that Iran's right to develop enriched Uranium and Nuclear Power is protected by the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, and there is no evidence of any nuclear weapons program in Iran.

Somehow, however, the US media and US public (including such liberal comedians as George Carlin, who on the Jay Leno show some weeks back stated bluntly that "now Iran has The Bomb") are convinced that Iran either has a Nuclear Weapons program, or has a Nuclear Bomb already.

Again, people are being too easily misled. Perhaps they don't realise that, instead of just believing what their Lying News Agencies tell them, they could check the firsthand sources instead, such as the IAEA News Center, Focus: Iran web page.

14 comments:

The Heretical Jew said...

Very good post. This is an issue I have been contemplating writing on for a few days. You beat me to the punch. I also think that it is important to note how many of the Western countries still have nuclear weopons in their arsenal. When do they plan to destroy them? I would dare to guess that they plan on never doing so. Yet they somehow have the right to tell other countries to not develop nuclear weapons? I am for the elimination of all nuclear weapons, both in development and in existence.

Again good post as usual.

Terror-Free Oil said...

Iran Will Not Stop Enriching Uranium, CBN video, 8/22/6
http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/videos/ES082206.php

Ahmadinutjob: Hitler of the 21st Century, FNC video, 8/22/6
http://www.terrorfreeoil.org/videos/TM082306.php

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misneach said...

THJ,

I think it's rediculous that the bush administration has been able to convince people like the brainwashed individual who commented after you that somehow Iran might be some kind of threat to america (in a way other than having their hand on the spigot of the world's 4th largest supply of oil). Even if they did decide to develop nuclear weapons (which all evidence suggests they are not, but for the sake of argument), such a nationalistic country is not going to initiate a strike on anyone as by doing so would only assure their destruction. Regardless of what brainwashed racist propaganda believers think, the Iranian government is not stupid.

I have to agree that the world does not need nuclear weapons. Is it really necessary for a country that tries to call itself noble to possess the capability to wipe out millions of innocent civilians at the push of a button? I think not.

Terror-Free-Oil,

I agree with your name in that I dont think the Bush administration, as the world's leading state sponsors of terror, should have access to oil. As far as Iran and uranium enrichment, why on earth should they stop enriching uranium? Are they not allowed to employ nuclear power stations so as to free up more of their most valuable resource for export rather than having to expend it on electricity production?

Secondly, do you honestly believe the rubbish broadcast on Fox news? Do you think it is perhaps a coincidence that the owner of that news channel (Rupert Murdoch) has also donated millions of dollars to the republican party? Fox news is the Völkischer Beobachter of 21st century America (if you miss the reference, that was the Nazi-run newspaper in germany in the 1920s and 30s).

How can you possibly believe the rhetoric about Mahmoud Ahmadinijad being hitler, is your memory so short that you've forgotten that Saddam was hitler in the words of the first and second G. Bush in 91 and 2002/3, and now the next desirable target has come up and they're trying to use the same negative association to raise negative public opinion for the man and as such justify and unjustifiable war? You obviously don't know anyone or have any relatives in the military, because if you did you would not have the audacity to regurgitate the war-mongering lies that those who are now, as we speak, giving it to you in the backside would like you to believe.

If you choose to comment again, I would appreciate you at least proferring some kind of believable substantiation for any additional rediculous claims you would like to make.

BTW, a true patriot does not surrender their capacity for reason and their morality to love their country.

Nadia said...

Hi there misneach!!!

I made the mistake of watching Swedish news last night and there it was again the Iranian president is out to wipe out Israel. I remember how Cole went in and explained how this translation was wrong when it first came up. I remember that in a small local newspaper a person mentioning this wrong translation. I remember e-mailing Swedish newspapers when they continued using it still after it was clear it was wrongly translated. So last night when I heard it once again I felt like throwing out my TV from my flat – I was so fed up. What is it with these journalists? Are they stupid? Don’t’ they have access to the Internet? Were the investigation spirit?

Misneach good post by the way, I have missed reading your blog while I was away. You should work as a journalist on all channels!

Fatima said...

Hey misneach,
Hope all is well with you. I thought of you when I read the following post: http://myoccupation.blogspot.com/2006/08/speaking-of-israel-lobby-and-war-on.html.
Thought it might interest you.

misneach said...

Nadia,

Du har kommer tillbaka till oss! Jettebra! Vi (allihop) har missad (missed?) nyhet skrivning om din blog. (I know, it's terrible swedish...)

Anyway, I know that exact feeling from watching the news (why on earth are CNN and Fox so widely distributed? Is this the outside world's view of news from an American perspective, Fox news? Neo-con propaganda from a man who sells cancer for a living? or pro-Israeli propaganda from a news source that claims to be objective yet toes the line better than Xinhua!?!?!) I just can't do it anymore, if I'm in the mood for news I try to get on the internet (not easy these days), I've given up on getting anything resembling fact or unbiased reporting from the mainstream western media.

One of the reasons for the lack of democracy in America is actually the media and the fact that they maintain a cloud of ignorance around the population, prohibiting the voting public from making informed decisions.

You may have noticed, however, a "global news sources" link on the blog main page. I got so absolutely sick of the worthless western news a few months (or was it weeks...) back that I went and put together a large set of links to news sources (all in english) from across the globe (haven't gotten to Latin America yet though, been busy). I find I get the most well rounded news by just randomly clicking on links, and I generally get a full perspective on what's going on. A personal favorite, however, would be the asia times, which has had some brilliant coverage of current events in recent months, some of which I've pirated onto this blog (in quote form, of course).

You know, somehow, it had never occured to me that the Iranian President (I can't spell his surname to save my life so he'll just be Mr. President) would be speaking persian and that his words would be open to interpretation-through-translation. I checked "Cole" with "Iran" and "Israel" on google and found "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel," Wikipedia's entry on the subject:

""Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, translates the Persian phrase as:

The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).[8]

According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to wipe Israel off the map because no such idiom exists in Persian" and "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse."[1]

The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) translates the phrase similarly:

[T]his regime that is occupying Qods [Jerusalem] must be eliminated from the pages of history.[9]

On 20 February 2006, Iran’s foreign minister denied that Tehran wanted to see Israel “wiped off the map,” saying Ahmadinejad had been misunderstood. "Nobody can remove a country from the map. This is a misunderstanding in Europe of what our president mentioned," Manouchehr Mottaki told a news conference, speaking in English, after addressing the European Parliament. "How is it possible to remove a country from the map? He is talking about the regime. We do not recognise legally this regime," he said.
"

Thank you Nadia for, as usual, pointing out important yet overlooked facts pertaining to such discussions.


Fatima,

It genuinely made me smile to hear you say that something you read made you think of me, and as usual I love to see your comments here!

Thank you kindly for that link, I've been absolutely astounded by the American views on the Israeli obliteration of Lebanon over the past few weeks. The first slap across the face I got was when I made the mistake of going to cnn.com to see their coverage of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, only to find that they provided heart wrenching accounts of the 16 Israeli civilian casualties and the hardships of Israelis forced to live in bomb shelters, but made absolutely no mention of the 300+ Lebanese civilian casualties. At the end of their extensive yet one-sided coverage they provided a poll asking readers whether or not Israel was justified in their actions. Of 120,000 votes (at the time), more than 80,000 said yes, Israel was justified. WELL OF COURSE THEY*RE GOING TO THINK THAT YOU MORONIC LIARS, WHEN YOU'RE ONLY GIVING THEM A TINY PORTION OF THE ACTUAL REALITIES OF THE SITUATION!!!!! I couldn't believe it! So, to vent, I posted some of the graphic pictures coming out of lebanon on this site, and wrote a controversial entry on an American website called "MyLeftWing" which claims to be representative of the American Left (which, as a knowledgeable blogger by the name of Cartledge pointed out, the right actually successfully committed political genocide against decades ago and only remains in name). I made a statement (OF FACT!) that support for Israel's "policies" in Lebanon was support for murder, and the owner of the website (afraid of upsetting the brainwashed masses that pay for her large california home), a woman who has been written about in the Washington Post as a flaming liberal (*cough*), THREATENED TO BAN ME FROM THE SITE!!!!! This is how far away from reality the discussion has been pushed in America. I couldn't believe it.

The post you provided the link for is insightful. While the entire rest of the world was condeming Israel's actions, the US was displaying unwavering support, rhetorically and militarily. Such support is obviously not in the best interests of the American public, so an explanation as to why such policies would be pursued is of course demanded by those who have a more realistic view of reality. I must tip my hat to the diabolical individuals who have been successfully able to convince the US government and public that they must unconditionally support Israel's actions (EVEN WHEN 62 PERCENT OF ISRAEL'S POPULATION WANTS EHUD OLMERT TO RESIGN OVER SAID ACTIONS!), which are at the opposite end of the spectrum from what could at all be rationally considered as being in the best interests of the American people.



Again, thank you all for your input and for pointing me towards additional sources of realistic information.

mariestaad said...

misneach, thanks for your enlightning comments on my blog (i wrote you a reply there). It never occured to me, either, that he might have been mistranslated, but since I do translations (Swedish poetry), I should know better! I once retranslated a Tomas Tranströmer poem where the "translator" Robert Bly had written "whirling helicopter blades" instead "razor" (the narrator was shaving). Also, I remember seeing a documentary about Truman and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The documentary (on Public Broadcasting) alleged that the letter that the Japanese sent which had been recorded in history as "refusing surrender" may have been mistranslated because it was written in courtly and formal Japanese that the translator did not fully understand. He missed the nuances that apparently left open room for negotiation. I was horrified. The fact that a country could be nuked for a mistranlations of a letter is mind-boggling.

A year ago, a student of mine from Pakistan (he originally was from Afghanistan) told me that Iran feels threatened by all its neighbors that have the bomb--Pakistan (primarily Sunni), Russia, India and most likely Israel. He felt that Iran is just trying to survive in a very dangerous neighborhood, and one that has had no love for the Shiite Persians in the past. I tend to agree with him.

I saw the President of Iran being interviewed by Mike Wallace of 60 minutes (CBS in the states) and he was evasive, but also quite charming. He caught Wallace off guard, and that is very hard to do! I don't think he was the man that Wallace expected to meet (you know, frothing at the mouth) The president took control of the interview. It was extremely interesting. So, does anyone know about the translation of his remarks about "moving Israel to Europe or Canada"? It would be interesting to have those reviewed.

REB 84 said...

Misneach,

Thanks for commenting again at QuestionItNow. I was glad to see you visiting.
I agree about much of what you have said here about the mainstream American media. I have been an NPR listener for years. We now have progressive radio to present an alternative pespective to the rad-con agenda. I have also been reading "The Week." This publication takes brief samples from publications all over the world. It provides some of the most balanced information I have found in a weekly news magazine. Of course I also get much of my news online. I will check out the links on your site.

Thank you for providing the information about the translation. It is horrifying to think that a mis-translation could help lead to war. I wonder if this mis-translation was an honest mistake or an attempt to further some hidden agenda? The rhetoric sure sounds familiar.

I recently posted something relating to the lack of solid intelligence we have on the Iranian nuclear program . I will share it here for your readers.

Found: Missing Intelligence on Iran
This past Saturday morning I heard an interesting observation from a former CIA agent. Apparently, Mike Rogers - republican US Congressman from Michigan’s 8th District & member of an Intelligence Committee - recently reported that the US needs better intelligence on Iran nuclear programs. Does this overstate the obvious?

On Saturday morning I also heard from a former FBI Agent that Rogers had "no comment" on the outing of Valerie Plame and the implosion of Plame’s cover company Brewster Jennings & Associates . Why was he not upset? Wouldn’t you expect him to be angry?

After all, if Rogers is really looking for “better intelligence” on Iran, shouldn’t he be angered if someone(s) in the Bush White House “outed” Plame-Wilson as part of a personal vendetta on the road to Iraq, while simultaneously killing a valuable intelligence asset and putting all agents associated with Brewster Jennings at risk? Will we ever know if any died?

The CIA agent and the FBI agent are the same man. The man who shared this information is a Navy, FBI, and CIA veteran and CIA classmate of Valerie Plame. This man is running against Mike Rogers as the real Intelligence Candidate.

This man is Jim Marcinkowski . Isn’t it time for public servants who know how to serve the public?

QuestionItNow

REB 84 said...

BTW - If you are looking for a larger audience to share some of your insights, please check out Bring It On!. I doubt anyone there would suggest banning you.

Cal Trask said...
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Cal Trask said...

BTW...My great uncle was the father of nuclear medicine. George Von Hevesy. He along with the rest of the world was horrified with the prospect of nuclear weapons...They were only more horrified by the fact that the Axis was only a few months behind in their development...
You can't legislate morality and you can't legislate invention. Take away nukes and we will find even more devious and horrible ways to kill each other...

Cal Trask said...

Used the wrong sign on...Sorry

I agree with a good bit of what you posted about the media save for your statement that the IAEA is a reliable source. This "toothless" bunch has no real power and is about as effective as it's parent the UN. Here's one thing to ponder though...
I remember in the 1980's we had concerts called "No-Nukes" to help stop, among other things, nuclear power programs. In the US they largely succeeded. Now that Europe ignored these folks and you're starting to see the third world go down the nuclear road...Where are the No-Nukers now? I think I know...

REB 84 said...

misneach,

Once again you have shared a pespective away from the mainstream. I only hope it helps some unquestioning people to stop and think about it. Propaganda is a powerful weapon. Will our leaders use it wisely? or get us into another Iraq?

BTW - QuestionItNow-Voices is now one year old. Please check out our 1st anniversary post.

Adios,
REB 84

Fatima said...

Hey misneach,
Where are you? Why'd you stop blogging? I've been checking every once in a while, waiting for a new post. Hope all is well.